Agenda item

Autumn Budget Statement

Minutes:

(1)          The Chairman reminded all Members that any Member of a Local Authority who was liable to pay Council Tax, and who had any unpaid Council Tax amount overdue for at least two months, even if there was an arrangement to pay off the arrears, must declare the fact that they were in arrears and must not cast their vote on anything related to KCC’s Budget or Council Tax.

 

(2)          Mr Baldock declared that he had unpaid Council Tax and withdrew from the meeting.

 

(3)          The Chairman moved and the Vice-Chairman seconded that:

 

(a)  Procedure Rule 1.28 be suspended in order that the Leader and the Deputy Leader be allowed to speak for a maximum of 12 minutes in total and the Leaders of the UKIP, Labour, Liberal Democrat and Independent Groups speak for 6, 5, 4 and 3 minutes respectively.

 

(b)  Procedure Rule 1.35 be suspended in order to allow Members to speak more than once during the debate, at the discretion of the Chairman, and in particular the Deputy Leader as seconder of the motion to speak again at the end of the debate. 

 

Agreed without a formal vote

 

(4)          The Chairman then invited Mr Wood, Corporate Director Finance and Procurement, to give a brief presentation to provide a context for this item.

 

(5)          Mr Carter proposed and Mr Simmonds seconded the following motion:

 

“TheCountyCouncilis askedto:

 

(a)  AUTHORISECorporateDirectorsto makethenecessaryarrangements to beableto deliversavingsoncethefinal budget has beenapprovedin February,andtodevelopfurtherproposalsto resolvetheunidentified gap andresolve the uncertainties shouldthese arise;

(c)  AGREE thesavingsfroma revisedapproachto theMinimumRevenue Provision policy(as detailedin paragraph 5.8);

(d)  AGREE theadditionalincometargetforreturnsonourcashbalances,as detailedin Appendix3;

(e)  RECOGNISE theexcellentprogressoneliminatingthe£52mgapthat wasincludedin thepublishedMTFPfor2017-18,downto itscurrent level of £5.2m.”

 

(6)          Mr Latchford, Mr Cowan, Mrs Dean and Mr Whybrow were given the opportunity to speak at the start of the debate on this item.

 

(7)          Mr Smyth proposed and Mr Cowan seconded the following amendment:

 

(a)  Authorise Corporate Directors to bring forward proposals to close the funding gap for Members’ consideration at the budget meeting in February 2017.

(b)  AGREE thesavingsfroma revisedapproachto theMinimumRevenue Provision policy(as detailedin paragraph 5.8);

(c)  AGREEtheadditionalincometargetforreturnsonourcashbalances,as detailedin Appendix3;

(d)  Note the hard work by Officers in eliminating the £52m funding gap that was included in the published MTFP for 2017 – 18 down to its current level of £5.2m and deplore the necessity to do so forced on us by Central Government.”

 

(8)          Following the debate the Chairman put the amendment set out in paragraph (7) above to the vote and the voting was as follows:

 

For (21)

 

Mr R Bird, Mrs P Brivio, Mr C Caller, Mr I Chittenden, Mr B Clark, Mr G Cowan, Mr D Daley, Mrs T Dean, Dr M Eddy, Mrs M Elenor, Mr C Hoare, Ms S Howes, Mr T Maddison, Mr F McKenna, Mr B MacDowall, Mrs E Rowbotham, Mr D Smyth, Mr N Thandi, Mr R Truelove, Mr M Vye, Mr M Whybrow

 

Against (52)

 

Mrs A Allen, Mr M Angell,  Mr M Balfour, Mr H Birkby, Mr N Bond, Mr A Bowles, Mr D Brazier, Mr L Burgess, Miss S Carey, Mr P Carter, Mr N Chard, Mrs P Cole, Mr G Cooke, Mrs M Crabtree, Mr A Crowther, Mrs V Dagger, Mr M Dance, Mr J Davies, Mr G Gibbens, Mr R Gough, Mr P Harman, Mr M Harrison, Mr M Heale, Mr M Hill, Mrs S Hohler, Mr P Homewood, Mr E Hotson, Mr M Horwood, Mr A King, Mr J Kite, Mr R Latchford, Mr R Long, Mr G Lymer, Mr S Manion, Mr A Marsh, Mrs D Marsh, Mr B Neaves, Mr M Northey, Mr P Oakford, Mr J Ozog, Mr C Pearman, Mr L Ridings, Mr J Scholes, Mr T Shonk, Mr C Simkins, Mr J Simmonds, Mr C Smith, Mr B Sweetland, Mrs C Waters, Mr J Wedgbury, Mrs J Whittle, Mr A Wickham

 

Abstain (3)

 

Mr J Elenor, Mr T Gates, Mr A Terry.

 

Amendment lost

 

(9)          After a debate on the motion as set out in paragraph (5) above the Chairman put each part of the motion to a formal vote and the voting was as follows:

 

   (a) AUTHORISECorporateDirectorsto makethenecessaryarrangements to beableto deliversavingsoncethefinal budget has beenapprovedin February,andtodevelopfurtherproposalsto resolvetheunidentified gap andresolve the uncertainties shouldthese arise;

 

For (62)

 

Mrs A Allen, Mr M Angell,  Mr M Balfour, Mr R Bird, Mr N Bond, Mr A Bowles, Mr D Brazier, Mr L Burgess, Miss S Carey, Mr P Carter, Mr N Chard, Mr I Chittenden, Mr B Clark, Mrs P Cole, Mr G Cooke, Mrs M Crabtree, Mr A Crowther, Mrs V Dagger, Mr D Daley, Mr M Dance, Mr J Davies, Mrs T Dean, Mr J Elenor, Mrs M Elenor, Mr T Gates, Mr G Gibbens, Mr R Gough, Mr P Harman, Mr M Harrison, Mr M Heale, Mr M Hill, Mr C Hoare, Mrs S Hohler, Mr E Hotson, Mr M Horwood, Mr A King, Mr J Kite, Mr R Latchford, Mr R Long, Mr G Lymer, Mr B MacDowall, Mr A Marsh, Mrs D Marsh, Mr B Neaves, Mr M Northey, Mr P Oakford, Mr J Ozog, Mr C Pearman, Mr J Scholes, Mr T Shonk, Mr C Simkins, Mr J Simmonds, Mr C Smith, Mr B Sweetland, Mr A Terry, Mr M Vye, Mrs C Waters, Mr J Wedgbury, Mrs J Whittle, Mr M Whybrow, Mr A Wickham, Mrs Z Wiltshire. 

 

Against (11)

 

Mr H Birkby, Mr C Caller, Mr G Cowan, Dr M Eddy, Ms S Howes, Mr T Maddison, Mr F McKenna, Mrs E Rowbotham, Mr D Smyth, Mr N Thandi, Mr R Truelove.

 

Abstain (2)

 

Mrs P Brivio, Mr P Homewood.

 

Motion carried

 

“(b) AGREE thesavingsfroma revisedapproachto theMinimumRevenue Provision policy(as detailedin paragraph 5.8);”

 

For (75)

 

Mrs A Allen, Mr M Angell, Mr M Balfour, Mr R Bird, Mr H Birkby, Mr N Bond, Mr A Bowles, Mr D Brazier, Mrs P Brivio, Mr L Burgess, Mr C Caller, Miss S Carey, Mr P Carter, Mr N Chard, Mr I Chittenden, Mr B Clark, Mrs P Cole, Mr G Cooke, Mr G Cowan, Mrs M Crabtree, Mr A Crowther, Mrs V Dagger, Mr D Daley, Mr M Dance, Mr J Davies, Mrs T Dean, Dr M Eddy, Mr J Elenor, Mrs M Elenor, Mr T Gates, Mr G Gibbens, Mr R Gough, Mr P Harman, Mr M Harrison, Mr M Heale, Mr M Hill, Mr C Hoare, Mrs S Hohler, Mr P Homewood, Mr E Hotson, Mr M Horwood, Ms S Howes, Mr A King, Mr J Kite, Mr R Latchford, Mr R Long, Mr G Lymer, Mr B MacDowall, Mr T Maddison, Mr A Marsh, Mrs D Marsh, Mr F McKenna, Mr B Neaves, Mr M Northey, Mr P Oakford, Mr J Ozog, Mr C Pearman, Mrs E Rowbotham, Mr J Scholes, Mr T Shonk, Mr C Simkins, Mr J Simmonds, Mr C Smith, Mr D Smyth, Mr B Sweetland, Mr A Terry, Mr N Thandi, Mr R Truelove, Mr M Vye, Mrs C Waters, Mr J Wedgbury, Mrs J Whittle, Mr M Whybrow, Mr A Wickham, Mrs Z Wiltshire 

 

Against (0)

 

Abstain (0)

 

Motion carried

 

“(c) AGREE theadditionalincometargetforreturnsonourcashbalances,as detailedin Appendix3;”

 

For (74)

 

Mrs A Allen, Mr M Angell, Mr M Balfour, Mr R Bird, Mr H Birkby, Mr N Bond, Mr A Bowles, Mr D Brazier, Mrs P Brivio, Mr L Burgess, Mr C Caller, Miss S Carey, Mr P Carter, Mr N Chard, Mr I Chittenden, Mr B Clark, Mrs P Cole, Mr G Cooke, Mr G Cowan, Mrs M Crabtree, Mr A Crowther, Mrs V Dagger, Mr D Daley, Mr M Dance, Mr J Davies, Mrs T Dean, Dr M Eddy, Mr J Elenor, Mrs M Elenor, Mr T Gates, Mr G Gibbens, Mr R Gough, Mr P Harman, Mr M Harrison, Mr M Heale, Mr M Hill, Mr C Hoare, Mrs S Hohler, Mr P Homewood, Mr E Hotson, Mr M Horwood, Ms S Howes, Mr A King, Mr J Kite, Mr R Latchford, Mr R Long, Mr G Lymer, Mr B MacDowall, Mr T Maddison, Mr A Marsh, Mrs D Marsh, Mr F McKenna, Mr B Neaves, Mr M Northey, Mr P Oakford, Mr J Ozog, Mr C Pearman, Mrs E Rowbotham, Mr J Scholes, Mr T Shonk, Mr C Simkins, Mr J Simmonds, Mr C Smith, Mr D Smyth, Mr B Sweetland, Mr A Terry, Mr N Thandi, Mr R Truelove, Mrs C Waters, Mr J Wedgbury, Mrs J Whittle, Mr M Whybrow, Mr A Wickham, Mrs Z Wiltshire 

 

Against (0)

 

Abstain (0)

 

Motion carried

 

“(d) RECOGNISEtheexcellentprogressoneliminatingthe£52mgapthat wasincludedin thepublishedMTFPfor2017-18,downto itscurrent level of £5.2m.”

 

For (56)

 

Mrs A Allen, Mr M Angell, Mr M Balfour, Mr R Bird, Mr H Birkby, Mr N Bond, Mr A Bowles, Mr D Brazier, Mr L Burgess, Miss S Carey, Mr P Carter, Mr N Chard, Mrs P Cole, Mr G Cooke, Mrs M Crabtree, Mr A Crowther, Mrs V Dagger, Mr D Daley, Mr M Dance, Mr J Davies, Mrs T Dean, Mr J Elenor, Mrs M Elenor, Mr T Gates, Mr G Gibbens, Mr R Gough, Mr P Harman, Mr M Harrison, Mr M Heale, Mr M Hill, Mrs S Hohler, Mr P Homewood, Mr E Hotson, Mr M Horwood, Mr A King, Mr R Long, Mr G Lymer, Mr A Marsh, Mrs D Marsh, Mr B Neaves, Mr M Northey, Mr P Oakford, Mr C Pearman, Mr J Scholes, Mr T Shonk, Mr C Simkins, Mr J Simmonds, Mr C Smith, Mr B Sweetland, Mr A Terry, Mr M Vye, Mrs C Waters, Mr J Wedgbury, Mrs J Whittle, Mr A Wickham, Mrs Z Wiltshire 

 

 

Against (12)

 

Mrs P Brivio, Mr C Caller, Mr G Cowan, Dr M Eddy, Ms S Howes, Mr T Maddison, Mr B MacDowall, Mrs E Rowbotham, Mr D Smyth, Mr N Thandi, Mr R Truelove, Mr M Whybrow

 

Abstain (3)

 

Mr B Clark, Mr C Hoare, Mr F McKenna

 

Motion carried

 

(10)       RESOLVED that;

 

(a)          the CorporateDirectorsbe authorised tomakethenecessaryarrangements to beableto deliversavingsoncethefinal budget has beenapprovedin February 2017,andtodevelopfurtherproposalsto resolvetheunidentified gap andresolve the uncertainties shouldthese arise;

(b)          thesavingsfroma revisedapproachto theMinimumRevenue Provision policy(as detailedin paragraph 5.8 of the report  be agreed;

(c)           theadditionalincometargetforreturnsonourcashbalances,as detailedin Appendix3 to the report be agreed;

(d)           theexcellentprogressoneliminatingthe£52mgapthat wasincludedin thepublishedMTFPfor2017-18,downto itscurrent level of £5.2m be recognised.”

 

 

         

 

 

 

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