Agenda item

Group Sessions: table discussions

Minutes:

Summary of table discussions

 

Discussion 1) Ray Dines - Highways schemeswhat should the priorities be for deciding which works are carried out by KHS?

The tables felt that these should be the priorities for schemes

1) Safety

2) Accessability

3) Congestion

4) Air quality

 

Other points raised

Consultation and communication KHS consult with Parish councils, police and community.

  • Would like more with the Parish Council including local discussion formal and informal
  • No single point of contact

 

Funding and decision making

  • Would there be funding through the EU? Eg because of operation stack and lorries passing though Kent?
  • Feel the rural area gets less for their money.
  • Local budgets to pay for local needs and more local decision making
  • Notice is taken of Petitions but more needs to be taken of PC’s

 

Discussion 2) Highways maintenance

General points were raised about Highways maintenance

  • KHS should fulfil Promises
  • Contractors need to be more closely supervised
  • Potholes and drains – some repairs do not last
  • Some take a long time before they are done – target of 1 month, but currently a back-log. Teams should use initiative and fill others in road at same time and use photos to identify rather than markings
  • Marking of potholes does not work very well as lines get erased over the time it takes for work to be completed

 

Road re-surfacing

  • Bluebell hill cited as good example of re-surfacing done over 48hours of closure. Needed a lot of parish consultation

 

Reporting faults

  • Better reporting back needed when internet and used to report. There was generally a feeling that nothing happened when reporting to the internet etc.
  • Works left for a long time undone

 

Utilities

  • Permit system and penalties being introduced to reduce delay in completion
  • Re-digging up of roads

 

Other specific issues raised

  • Some roads in Fairseat are very poor
  • Decisions on speed limits – who makes these?

There is a national review of speed limits on all roads. KHS has been tasked by government to review speed limits on roads over the next few years.

  • Sole St/Cobham is a rat run/short cut – with speeding cars
  • Use of Parish Plans – parish plans (e.g. Cobham) to help inform of priorities – these are not fed into KHS priorities at the moment
  • Flooding in Sole Street – nothing has happened
  • Southfield Shaw – Vigo/Culverstone – a crossing problem – needs a pavement on other side of road
  • Heron Hill Lane – valley lane – quality of road
  • Many people wanted to talk more about the A227 and discuss this more – many did not know of JTB decisions -  a lack of awareness of the JTB meeting. Problems with A227 including lorries and speeding traffic

 

Discussion 3) Grass verge maintenance

 

·      Flailing on Wrotham Road – Frequency not high enough

·      Sole Street – Debris left at edge of the road after land owners have cut the hedges and also detritus in road along paved sections – KHS dealing with debris from hedge cutting under highway safety

·      Top of Newlands Lane – Tree dumped on verge has never been cleared – The tree has been removed by GBC and the grass strimmed.  This area is on the rural flail so is due to be cut twice per year.

·      Conifer Drive – Verge next to No. 2 from White Post Lane is in a disgusting state.- We will be cutting this back in the next couple of week and will add to the rural flail list

·      No flailing is ever carried out in White Post Lane – See point 4

·      White Post Lane/Mountfield – Access points to Culverstone recreation ground overgrown; why are they not checked regularly? These areas have been cut back and the leaves cleared.  We will do this job at least twice per year.

 

·        Wrotham Road verge past Hope Hill – Frequency not high enough and it always looks a state and sight lines are dangerous.  Also there is a disparity between the standard of cut here to the standard on the Wrotham Road from A2 out to Istead Rise. 

·        Re-introduction of “Length” men to carry out minor maintenance works on rural roads such as cutting back trees from the signs and cutting out channels in the verges to aid surface water run off.

·        Norwood Lane – Complaint regarding the flailing and the fact that it is dangerous due to blind bends. This road had an extra cut this year due to highway safety

·        Road junctions in Cobham – Please can additional priority be given to sight lines in the area.

·        Churchyard grass cutting – can we cut more frequently as this would mean we would get round quicker and it wouldn’t take any longer.  Nurstead Church was mentioned in particular.

·        Parking on verges in Meopham and Shorne were mentioned – Can the cars / lorries be issued with tickets?

·        Can we box off our grass clippings? We do not box off clippings

 

·        Higham verges – they are not cut every 3 weeks We will monitor this during the next cutting season

·        Canal Road???

·        Can we publicise the cutting dates or sites that get 3 weekly cut and those that get twice yearly cuts? Website / Your Borough.

·        Gravesham Council Tax Workshops – A cost saving mechanism of reducing the grass cutting frequency in order to save money had been proposed; there was universal agreement that they didn’t want to see this happen.

·        Harvel grass cutting please can the litter can be picked from the verges after the flailing takes place – This point has been taken on board and we will aim to do this next year

·        Cobhambury Hill – Has the verge been cut with wildlife in mind and what are we doing to promote wildlife in the verges – We are working in partnership with Kent Wildlife Trust who advise us on cutting times and heights to actively encourage wildflowers.

·        Leaves in Pear Tree Lane are dangerous and need to be swept

 

Need to:-

·      Improve Communication

·      Members of the Pubic would like more information with regard to when and how often the grass will be cut

·      Members of the Pubic would like more information with regard to what is Borough and what is County responsibility

·      Implement Service Level Agreements?

·      Cut Nurstead Church more frequently