Agenda item

Transport and accessibility

Minutes:

Topic 2 Transport and accessibility

Vicki Hubert, Senior Transport Planner at KCC talked about how transport and accessibility can be improved to help older people access vital local services.

In particular, the following questions were asked;

Does public transport in this area get you to the key services you need access to, such as healthcare, food stores and social activities?  Can you walk to the bus stop easily?  Are there enough drop kerbs, benches, bus shelters etc?

 

Issues raised

  • Shorne Country Park was discussed. The group were disappointed that no public transport goes there.  The officer from KCC explained that there will be a new service, the 416 and the 417, which is a KCC subsidised route and will start on 1 February.

 

  • Concerns were raised about difficulty in getting to hospital.  The group were advised that they could use the North West Kent Dial-a-ride service.  This service can be used if the passenger has a medical condition that makes travelling by public transport difficult, or by anyone that lives more than 500m from a conventional bus route.  Many people had not heard of the scheme and someone raised the issue that many people would not fit the criteria and that the service was still too expensive for many.  Access to the travel websites was also raised as an issue, as many older people do not have access to the internet. 

For queries about the Dial-a-ride service, please call KCC Transport Integration team on 01622 605349.

 

  • The Volunteer Centre also has drivers who charge per mile.

 

  • Several issues were raised about bus passes, and how safe bus shelters were were.  Some older people were afraid to go out because of the behaviour of some young people at the bus stops.

 

  • The general consensus was that the frequency of buses was in itself bad, but also that many buses were cancelled without any notice or they just did not turn up.  Many older people could not get onto the buses easily because of a lack of raised kerbs at the bus stop.  This issue also affects parents with pushchairs. A lack of services back to villages later in the day was also an issue.  For example, the latest return service for route 455 from Singlewell Road is 2:45 pm.

 

  • Concerns were raised about the lack of public transport to and from Higham and the poor state of pavements in the village.

 

  • The bus service to and from Chalk was also mentioned as being poor, unless you are willing to walk virtually out of Chalk and down to the Lion Garage to catch the bus.  The bus service does not run on Sundays and stops early in the evenings.  When people do not have access to private cars, public transport is the only option.  Officers were asked whether KCC and the bus operators worked together to improve services.  Officers responded that KCC do have an input and do assist in funding some services that would not be commercially viable to run otherwise.

 

  • The group felt there was a poor transport service in some of Gravesham’s more rural areas.  Enjoying an evening at Woodville Halls is not possible for many, as the last bus leaves Gravesend long before performances finish.  Even though a lot of older people still drive, many do not like driving in the dark. Also there is no Sunday service. One member of the public felt that the buses on a Sunday were always old and dirty, and that people in rural areas were treated badly. They asked for someone from KCC and the bus company to ride the bus at these times to see how bad it could be.

 

  • Comments were made about the fact that the bus service for older people was free and that this was a good thing. Fastrack was agreed to be an improvement.  Minibuses were not popular as people with mobility problems were unable to board easily.

 

  • Bus shelters were seen by the group as outdated and often vandalised or in a poor state.  Many people said that the bus shelters should be updated or replaced and that any bus shelters that had been removed, (i.e. in Valley Drive) should be replaced, as some older people found this unnerving.  Shelters were also a concern for the residents of Chalk.

 

  • Someone asked about concessionary prices on trains and if KCC had any influence here.  The response was that KCC approach the train companies regularly about this issue, but so far have been unsuccessful.

 

  • Other concerns and suggestions:
    • Pavements should be repaired so that people can walk safely for all or part of their journey.
    • People at work have problems getting the bus from the station after 6pm.
    • Cars parked at bus stops make it difficult for the bus driver to bring the vehicle right to the kerb.  KCC are working on this by installing bus clearways which prevent any vehicle but the bus parking in that location
    • One person commented that they lived in the town and there was no problem with public transport